Monday, June 6, 2011

Eww, pi-water

For the past couple of days I have been dissecting a device designed to enhance water so that it will provide magical benefit.

I like water. I like swimming in water. I like drinking water. I like washing myself in water; though some suggest I do not perform this purifying ritual often enough.

I like mixing things with water. Just this morning I poured hot water over the slightly baked beans of a tropical tree and made magic.

I am mostly water.

The surface of the planet I call home is mostly water.

If I do not drink enough water I will die. If I drink too much water I will die. If I drink water with bad stuff in it I will get sick. If I drink water with good stuff in it while cycling I can go farther and faster.

Water also has aesthetic qualities. Clear water bends or reflects light in pleasant ways. Some water tastes better than other water.

There is room in the totality of our cultural experience with water to make many claims about the interaction of man with water. The device I have been taking apart is associated with several specific claims. The device uses PIMag magic to produce water sometimes called PI-water. PI-Water will supposedly:

  • -Eradicate Stomach cancer
  • - Decrease of brain tumor
  • - Improvement in leukemia
  • - Dermatitis improvement
  • - Improvement with alopecia
  • -Improvement in diabetes
  • -Improved liver function after hepatitis
  • -Lowered blood pressure
  • - Improvement in cardiac output
  • -Rapid recovery from stroke
  • -Relief of headaches and stiff joints
  • -Relief of constipation
  • -Improved overall health
  • -Improved immunity (intake of pi-water should be increased in the early stages of. A cold, flu or virus
  • -AIDS virus reportedly does not seem to multiply in this high-energy environment.
  • - Pi-water has been used to store tissue samples instead of placing them in a hormone solution. The structure of the tissues remained intact for over 30 years using this process.
  • - soaking meats increases tenderness
  • - Fewer spices were needed as the tastes of foods were intensified.
  • - Cleaning fruits and vegetables with pi-water removes toxins and prolongs their freshness
  • - Unripened bananas can be soaked for 30 minutes to sweeten their taste.
  • - Spraying plants with pi-water improves their colors, watering with pi- water increases root growth and foliage. . Pi-water may also prove very useful in preserving our natural habitats.
  • - Pets exhibit a higher energy level when drinking pi-water
  • - It is also beneficial as an odor remover when simply sprayed by a spray
  • bottle or if the pet consumes the water.
  • - Spraying their coat with the water will enhance shinier and cleaner fur.
  • - Improved hair cleanliness, as well as skin
  • - Laundry doesn’t yellow as easily.
Quite an impressive list of beneficial uses! How many other cancer therapeutics are known also to reduce the yellowing of laundry? It is hard to reasonably imagine how one would get that sort of information about other cancer therapeutics.

The patient is frail beyond his years, and almost floats on the cushioning of the comfy chair instead of settling in. It is late in the nurse’s shift, but she still manages a well worn but calming banter while preparing his chemotherapy IV.

“How are we feeling today?” she asks

“I’m a bit tired” the patient responds “Do you think that stuff you’re putting into my vein would make a good laundry additive?”

“Hmmmm?” She asks reflexively while simultaneously uncapping the IV’s needle.

“Do you think, if I sprayed this on cat pee, it would reduce the smell?” Asks the patient.

“Lovely weather we’re having” On “we’re” she pushes the needle into a vein in the bend of his left elbow.

“Ungh” He responds, and then “I would love to dip some bananas in this stuff”
Such an impressive list of positive uses does not grow from typical lines of inquiry. This list grew from the intellectual fertilizer of direct marketing. The manufacturer may never have considered PI-water for constipation, but a quick thinking direct marketer may have believed that one of his customers was cured of the complaint by using this product.

The list positive benefits grows with the popularity of a device. Only if the list gets too long, and gets too much attention does it demand a response from the manufacturer of the device. Then it can be easier to discontinue the device than address the bogosity of the claims. Nikken has discontinued both the Optimizer and its replacement the Optimizer II, and currently Nikken has no functional replacement in its product line (on the US site…It looks like one can still get the Optimizer II on the Australian site).

The sites that make the amplified claims also come and go. I will provide hyperlinks to the sites I quote from, but I doubt they will be operational after a few months.

The manufacturer presents much more conservative claims about its PI-Water, and supplies them in a little story.

Near a small town in Japan is an area with unusual topographical features. A narrow stream flows between two hills. As it happens, one of these hills is largely composed of a mineral called magnetite. The other hill contains calcium compounds. The stream between them courses over a bed of silicates, the material that forms natural crystal. And here, Japanese scientists discovered that the water from this stream had amazing results on the surrounding plants.

What they saw astounded them. They named this substance pi water. Then they set out to duplicate these natural conditions in the laboratory. Researchers found that by using special materials, they could reproduce the environment that led to pi water in nature. These discoveries are incorporated in Nikken PiMag™ products.
 
From there the story grows wild. Various sites provide enhanced information. Pi refers to the Pi meson (or Pion) which is specially enhanced in number or activity in PI-Water. There is also a structuring, or un-structuring of the water. Magnets play a role, as well as special ceramic technology.

The technology is supposed to help replace the need for a water softener, and it works best if one starts with glass-distilled water. It is also interesting to note that there are supposed to be more calcium ions in the PI-Water than in “normal” water.

 I can believe some of the claims. If one does laundry in essentially distilled water there should be fewer yellowing situations.

The claims mentioned in this entry are what I call the “High order” claims. One of the interesting things about PI-Water is that there is an elaborate set of lower order claims concerning its physical structure.

The nature of the lower order claims appears comprehensively intricate from a simple surface scan. There are strange spectroscopic measurements. There is even a rare physical parameter called, and I am not making this up: “Eww”. Delving into this information causes my head to spin slightly on one of its axis. I hope to calm down soon, and spin you up an entry from what I’ve been learning.

Perhaps I should go drink a glass of water, or take a hot shower to help calm down?




68 comments:

solomon said...

Dear Author,

Atheists are silly enough, too quick to accept evolution or nature to quickly refute God. Don't they look aroud them, what real is going on. They just depend on only their lousy so called scientific tools.
Don't they at any instant think , what feelings are made of, where they come from. How would you go about when your loved ones turned them down.Does you depend on your lousy scientific tools.Theres much more, a lot more to think about before one quickly accept atheism.

adult onset atheist said...

Solomon;
The meat of your comment suggests that you are responding more to the title of my blog rather than any of its contents. In fact it does not sound like you have read my blog…or much of it at least. There is a lot of material here. Perhaps if you took the time to read it you would find parts of it entertaining and insightful.

solomon said...

Dear Author,
Thanks for inviting me to read your post which I might consider.
I reckon you leave the atheists believe coz it will only deceive you. Its just a delusion like most of your atheists masters said it but you don't realize.The real truth is that there is only one true religion & one true God Almighty.
Some points to ponder.
A toy is produced in an assembly line in a shoddy factory.Suddenly the toy claim of its own origin.

The manufacturer or the toy has the authority or knowledge of claiming the toys origin???

adult onset atheist said...

Who is going to play with all those toys?

solomon said...

Don't worry about the toy. They can take care of themselves.

Points to reason out;

Imagine a vast universe.Suddenly theres this tiny blue planet that contains abundance of water,natural gases, living things and many other wondrous creations.Its amazing that these living & non living thing suddenly can adapt with its surroundings.
Take an ant for a trip to the moon for example.See, what will become of his fate. Poor ant..

Who could have orchestrated all that??
Is it your nature or evolution?

See how the Atheists are too stubborn to realize the reasoning behind those phenomena.

adult onset atheist said...

Why shouldn’t we worry about the toy? That seems a bit heartless. Are you too busy spewing your disjointed irrational nonsense to realize there is something terrible going on in your story. That toy, like so many of its siblings, just came out of a shoddy factory. Now it should just “Take care of itself”! Toys are designed to be played with. Where is the love?

solomon said...

The moral of the story is not about the fate of the toys.So lets leave aside who's goin to take care of it.
If you just pretend not to understand, the story is about the atheists who always claim to figure out the origin of human base on their own thinking, in other words the claim came from within the human itself.An existing being or thing would not exactly know the real origin of itself if not told by the creator or the builder.

adult onset atheist said...

In many stories about toys there are morals. I don’t think your story has any. As far as your attempted point about awareness is concerned you have fallen very short of making it since your conclusions and logic are so threadbare. There was a story about toys I used to read to AOD and AYD called the “Best loved bear”. Perhaps your logic is so loved by you that you see the damage you have inflicted on it as signs of your love.

I’m interested in how you can just abandon these toys. What have they done to deserve your heartless attitude? What if children are to play with them; will the factory’s poor quality standards mean the toys are dangerous? How can you be so heartless about these toys?

Raggedy Anne had a heart; it was made out of candy. Late at night she and the other toys would become aware and go on marvelous adventures. Do the aware toys you created go on marvelous adventures? Do they ever go to Ohio?

Anonymous said...

Who IS this Solomon guy? He doesn't read your blog, but thinks its COMMENT section is his private pulpit. How Gauche!

solomon said...

Author,
You are running away from the main argument here. If I'am goin to talk about the subject of toys & love, it will take me three weeks and that time won't still be efficient.

Anonymous,

Don't hide behind an anonymous name.Show yourself and speak out.
Chicken...
Puk...puk...puk....

solomon said...

Sorry

efficient....should be sufficient

adult onset atheist said...

Dear Anonymous; It is in better taste to post with at least some type of handle. It is awkward calling someone “Anonymous” . I appreciate your support, but Solomon is apparently getting the feeling that he is being attacked; that would account for his childish “chicken” outburst. It may be true that he is refusing to comment on the post he is writing in the comment section of, but he may simply be unable to follow the information presented in the blog. Look at the way he brings up toys and then spend so much time backing away from talking about them. Yes Anonymous, I know he is using the typical “change the subject/argument when it is not going the way I want tactic” that is typical of those who know something but don't know why, but it is not our place to denigrate them for their infirmity. They are people with real intrinsic worth, and we should not judge them on their ability to uphold a coherent conversation.

adult onset atheist said...

Solomon; In order to arrive at the conclusion “An existing being or thing would not exactly know the real origin of itself if not told by the creator or the builder.” from your metaphorical toy story one would have to know a lot more about the toys themselves. Are you postulating that the toys cannot know about their real origin unless told, or are you stating that for every existing thing it is impossible for them to know the origin of themselves (unless told) as a necessary condition of their existence?

If you are trying to make the point that the lack of knowledge in the toy is not a feature of the toy's capacity for knowledge then choosing an example with no capacity for knowledge (unless they are magical) is a very poor way of progressing with your thesis. Does a toy know anything? If a toy knows nothing is is the fact that is does not know it was created on an assembly line any less trivial than the fact that it does not know the price of 7-11 burritos in Ohio? If you do not know the price of 7-11 burritos in Ohio does it mean your knowledge on anything else is as limited as the toy?

solomon said...

Look here, now you're gettin confused.
A human, compared to the wondrous creations or phenomenons around them & things that they have'nt know yet is as disdain as the toy, unless they think they're superior enough.(the atheists)
At this point they are just wondering or guessing how they originate.Thats what I say, they must be told of their origin by their creator, its a simple 1,2,3 concept.Its not possible or even un logic for they themselves to determine their origins.

adult onset atheist said...

I am getting confused here Solomon. When you say: “A human, compared to the wondrous creations or phenomenons around them & things that they have'nt know yet is as disdain as the toy, unless they think they're superior enough.” I think you are talking in a way that only makes sense to you. First of all I'm not sure what “as disdain as a toy” means. If I break out the word disdain I get the following definition: “Verb: Consider to be unworthy of one's consideration. Or Noun:The feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt.”. So you might mean “as unworthy of consideration as a toy” which would be consistent with your earlier toy disparaging statements.

Now I'm left wondering what you mean by “wondrous creations”; you obviously don't mean toys. Perhaps you mean armadillos. So I could substitute “armadillos" as a specific case of “wondrous things or phenomenons around them & things they have'nt known yet” to make your statement: “A human compared to an armadillo is as unworthy of consideration as a toy unless they think they are superior enough”. So we people with such low self-esteem that they think they should be compared to armadillos should not be considered (for whatever).

I'm still not entirely sure what you mean by worthy or superior, or even consideration for that matter. Those are often terms best understood by people who are steeped in judgmental belief or who are self-conscious about their ability to write.

How do you think that you yourself measure up to the amazing armadillo?

solomon said...

OK I'll explain in simple terms.
A human, being a weak creature in terms of physical, mental or other fields as compared to the other miraculous gods creations is worthy to be compared to the shoddy toy unlike the atheists lots who boasts around in what they thought they have been superior enough.
Is that understood?
Ahh...I'am gettin exhausted on your lengthy rants on insignificant little titbits of an argument.Lets debate on real stuffs first.

solomon said...

For your info I will not be around for three days this weekend to reply to your comments.
This will be my last post until we meet again god willing.

adult onset atheist said...

Solomon; English is not your first language is it? What is your primary language?

solomon said...

Hi I'am back,

"Solomon; English is not your first language is it? "

A favorite question the atheists usually ask...
Design to mock theists of their incapability to communicate in English or a way to find out from which region they came from.

Well language is second in importance. The main importance is the message & truth is delivered.

adult onset atheist said...

Solomon, are you saying that English is your first language? I think some of the problems you keep referring to may be due to a language barrier. What is your primary language? If it is not English you write well enough in English to have me sincerely wondering; you write better than many people I encounter for whom English is their first language.

solomon said...

English is not my primary language.Not to say the least I'am flattered with your compliments but I have to keep it KIV for a while, who knows you might keep a hidden agenda to backfire it on me later. But if you sincerely think my English is A OK then I have to thank you and myself.

adult onset atheist said...

Solomon; You are a bit paranoid. I am not out to “get” you, and I do not see describing your statements as wrong as an indictment of your character. If I was to question your character it would be on the basis of:
1) That you comment on a blog you have apparently not read.
2) That you make attacks based only on the title of the blog
3) That you call other people who comment names when they disagree with you
4) That you repeatedly refuse to answer direct questions
5) That you call your statements “simple” instead of addressing issues identified with your description of them.
6) That you repeatedly lump atheists together and make bigoted observations of them.
7) That you suggest that you have a strongly held faith, but avoid naming it.
8) That you decry a hidden agenda in me (and all atheists) where the only hidden agenda in this conversation is yours.

On top of these issues is your language barrier. You will not even say what your primary language is in case I might learn something about you about which you must be quite embarrassed.

BTW: what does KIV mean?

solomon said...

I have to be extra careful. I have stumbled across typical few atheists lots who seems to be sincere but will hit you when they have the opportunity. Sorry to say most atheists are hippocrates.
KIV means keep in view.

adult onset atheist said...

There you go again Solomon. Yet another aggressively bigoted statement. Perhaps if you took more pains to be cordial rather than mysterious people you would find fewer people attacking you. If you act like a troll you should expect to be treated like a troll, and it would have more to do with your actions than the predisposition of any group you were insulting.

solomon said...

Its not what you might think author regarding my character. You will later find me more reasonable and rational than what you might expect.

solomon said...

Oooopss.time for bed
bye.

adult onset atheist said...

I’m glad, Solomon, that you think your character is good. So far you have presented little besides your own belief that your character is worthwhile. I would expect a person of very poor character to maintain that their character should be judged good just because they have said so.

solomon said...

No amount of hidden character will suffice if right beneath our hearts lies deceit, dishonest and insincerity..

adult onset atheist said...

"Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house." -- Matthew 5:15

solomon said...

That's very thoughtful.
See...always willing to accept good deeds.

solomon said...

Just to refresh...

The brains comes in package with other parts or organs of the body. Suddenly the brains spoke of the origins of the whole body existence.Would you hear what the brains claims?

adult onset atheist said...

Each of your attempts at a clever example has been weak, and you refuse to respond to questions about them. This brain-body construct is one of the weakest. You have actually avoided responding to any questions. Why should your feeble attempts at cute philosophizing get any attention if you are not willing to support them?

solomon said...

The supports will come gradually. Think about what I put forth first & try to reason out.

adult onset atheist said...

Your fingers comes in package with other parts or organs of the body. Suddenly the fingers type out nonsense they claim comes from a brain. Should I pay attention to what your fingers type?

solomon said...

"clever"....
But not so clever....
Nothing significant to respond to...
Just uttering of words I suppose...

adult onset atheist said...

I don't think you will find anything that you find worthy of responding to here on this blog.

solomon said...

Atheists are !!!FOOOOLLSSS!!!
Fooled none other by a wicked heart.
Who will inherit !!HELL!!
Unless they repent...

adult onset atheist said...

Go pedal your extremist Islamic nonsense somewhere else Solomon.

solomon said...

Typical atheists.....

adult onset atheist said...

Solomon. After you grow up a little you might find that disgust towards your troll-like pin-headed Islamo-fascist behavior is pretty typical of most reasonable people.

solomon said...

Reasonable....
Only a camouflage...
Right beneath is a !!FIERY!! wicked, sick heart!

adult onset atheist said...

Now you are becoming petulant. Are ignorant tirades a sign of enlightenment in your culture?

solomon said...

No....
I'am just telling the truth.
You will be burned in !!HELL!!
Unless you repent.

adult onset atheist said...

More petulant nonsense. If you are trying to pitch your personal misinterpretation of the Qu'ran you should say that you are going to hell so they will not be put off by the idea of spending eternity with the likes of your delusional troglodyte slavering.

solomon said...

The Atheists...
Always finding excuses or loopholes as long as they can deny truth...
Their intentions are surfaced but they don't realize.

adult onset atheist said...

You don't speak truth. You are a troll.

solomon said...

Ahh....
Just accusations....

solomon said...

Evolution claims ape turns to human in a very long long time, which they can't hardly prove it.
While God can instantly make a man or tree grow in front of their eyes in such a short time.
Suddenly...an innocent little girl with a Raggedy Anne in one hand spoke out.
Sir...I think evolution is a HOAX.

solomon said...

Nobody can refute the concept of creation.
Its a very well foolproof concept outlined by God.

adult onset atheist said...

The argument that you do not understand something except what you demand is right is called an argument form ignorance, and is not worth addressing. The argument that only knowledge given directly to you from your invisible friend is called the argument from schizophrenia, and should perhaps be medicated. The fact that yor spiritual overloard requires yolu to argue in a shallow petulant manor shows that you are shallow and petulant. I can expect no honesty from you at this point.

solomon said...

Try to refute my argument if you say as such.You won't be able to.

solomon said...

You can only deny based on words, not on reasons. Thats the silly best you can do.

adult onset atheist said...

I was not trying to refute your argument. I was trying to let you know that I think you are incapable of carrying on a civil conversation whether it contains an argument or not. If you have an argument you would like to state, and you would like it addressed by me, you must agree to conduct yourself in a much more civil manner than you have so far shown yourself capable of. Can you do that Solomon?

solomon said...

I can do anything but when dealing with atheists one have to be tactful & the only language that suits to be addressed to them is what I'am adressing now, which leaves no loopholes for them to counter attack.

adult onset atheist said...

I'm not sure I'm following you. There are two clarifications we need.

1) Can you recognize the difference between someone showing you where you are wrong and attacking you?

2) Would you prefer to try part of the conversation in your primary language?

solomon said...

"2) Would you prefer to try part of the conversation in your primary language?"

Why not substitute your request with
"Would you clarify from which region you came from?"
I know atheists...
What's the point of conversing in my primary language anyway.

adult onset atheist said...

I was hoping that some of your apparent troll-like behavior was due to a language barrier. I don't know why you don't want to say where you are from, or what your religion is; it must be some kind symptom of bipolar disorder. You also don't want to actually read my blog since all your comments have centered entirely on the title. Since you are so unstable it is important for you to address point #1: Can you recognize the difference between someone showing you where you are wrong and attacking you, and are you willing to do so in this conversation?

solomon said...

I don't want this confrontation to be lengthy.
So lets forgive & forget and lets start a new fresh debate on "real stuffs".

adult onset atheist said...

There is no reason for me to delve into what you think might be real unless you can recognize the difference between someone showing you where you are wrong and attacking you...and are you willing to do so in this conversation

solomon said...

Youre sure one stubborn dude...

solomon said...

Forget about evolution first.
Look at the human body.How come a mother is equipped with a pair of tits for her baby to suckle.Can nature or evolution account for or manage to think of that?
Sure evolution is a piece of shit concept.

adult onset atheist said...

In addition to point #1 (Can you recognize the difference between someone showing you where you are wrong and attacking you, and are you willing to do so in this conversation?) You will need to be able to at least recognize when a point has been made, and change your mind about the concreteness of your position when it has. This point does not mean that you need to give up on your mystery beliefs, or admit that you are wrong about everything, but I think many of your arguments are flawed, and you must be open to reasonably recognizing that in order for any conversation on your issues to be productive.

solomon said...

Flawed??

Prove it!

adult onset atheist said...

You will need to be able to at least recognize when a point has been made, and change your mind about the concreteness of your position when it has. This point does not mean that you need to give up on your mystery beliefs, or admit that you are wrong about everything, but I think many of your arguments are flawed, and you must be open to reasonably recognizing that in order for any conversation on your issues to be productive. Can you do that?

solomon said...

"Can you do that?"
I don't have to answer to this 'trap' question.

adult onset atheist said...

I have no idea why you think it these are trap questions, and you will have to answer them if you wish to productively discus your ideas with me. For most people the basic level of civility addressed by the questions you believe are traps can be assumed; you have so far shown that you prefer delusional paranoia to rational civility.

solomon said...

You have been ranting around with irrelevant issues within this 10 days without debating on the real arguments that I posted. If you keep on demonstrating such behavior I won't hesitate to abandon this blog which is quite boring.

adult onset atheist said...

Please go away